Comments on: Delphi back in Top Ten http://www.monien.net/blog/index.php/2008/10/delphi-back-in-top-ten/ Delphi Programming, .NET Philosophy, Web development and more ... Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: TDelphiHobbyist http://www.monien.net/blog/index.php/2008/10/delphi-back-in-top-ten/comment-page-1/#comment-35 TDelphiHobbyist Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:15:13 +0000 http://www.monien.net/blog/index.php/2008/10/delphi-back-in-top-ten/#comment-35 <a href="http://About.Delphi.com">About.Delphi.com</a> comes back with quite a large number of hits :)<br><br>Did you notice in the October Newsflash at the TIOBE site:<br>"Some languages such as Delphi have extreme low scores for Google blogs. This will be figured out a next time. "<br>We may be in for yet another bit of a boost. About.Delphi.com comes back with quite a large number of hits :)

Did you notice in the October Newsflash at the TIOBE site:
“Some languages such as Delphi have extreme low scores for Google blogs. This will be figured out a next time. “
We may be in for yet another bit of a boost.

]]> By: RIF http://www.monien.net/blog/index.php/2008/10/delphi-back-in-top-ten/comment-page-1/#comment-34 RIF Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:13:27 +0000 http://www.monien.net/blog/index.php/2008/10/delphi-back-in-top-ten/#comment-34 Careful how you read this statistics.<br><br>It looks all pretty with these 4 green arrows, but you could have green arrows while actual losing overall percentage of market. This would happen when the place(s) directly above Delphi just loses more. So for Tiobe only read the ratings and delta column, and indeed this month it look fine.<br><br>Olaf, I have followed your idea and tried the search on some more sites. First column is searching for "delphi programming", second is just searching for delphi.<br><br>delphibasics.co.uk 2 1550<br><a href="http://delphi.wikia.com">delphi.wikia.com</a> 17 5660<br>delphi-treff.de 6 20100<br><a href="http://nldelphi.com">nldelphi.com</a> 19 8020<br><a href="http://developpez.com">developpez.com</a> 0 14300<br><br>So even if delphibasics have more than 1000 pages on Delphi programming it counts very little. Also notice the French site developpez which is a general programming site but writes a fair amount about Delphi will not be counted in. That show that the stats are skewed towards the programming languages position in English speaking markets, e.g. US, where Delphi never have been a strong player and hence end up with a lower score.<br><br>Until Tiobe fix up their flawed data collection methods, the best one can do is understand how limited this stat is and follow Olaf's advice to avoid that your Delphi site is not counted. Careful how you read this statistics.

It looks all pretty with these 4 green arrows, but you could have green arrows while actual losing overall percentage of market. This would happen when the place(s) directly above Delphi just loses more. So for Tiobe only read the ratings and delta column, and indeed this month it look fine.

Olaf, I have followed your idea and tried the search on some more sites. First column is searching for “delphi programming”, second is just searching for delphi.

delphibasics.co.uk 2 1550
delphi.wikia.com 17 5660
delphi-treff.de 6 20100
nldelphi.com 19 8020
developpez.com 0 14300

So even if delphibasics have more than 1000 pages on Delphi programming it counts very little. Also notice the French site developpez which is a general programming site but writes a fair amount about Delphi will not be counted in. That show that the stats are skewed towards the programming languages position in English speaking markets, e.g. US, where Delphi never have been a strong player and hence end up with a lower score.

Until Tiobe fix up their flawed data collection methods, the best one can do is understand how limited this stat is and follow Olaf's advice to avoid that your Delphi site is not counted.

]]> By: Rick http://www.monien.net/blog/index.php/2008/10/delphi-back-in-top-ten/comment-page-1/#comment-32 Rick Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:03:00 +0000 http://www.monien.net/blog/index.php/2008/10/delphi-back-in-top-ten/#comment-32 You should re-read Olaf's and Jim post - IT clearly explains "Why should I add Delphi Programming everywhere?" You should re-read Olaf's and Jim post – IT clearly explains “Why should I add Delphi Programming everywhere?”

]]> By: ibandyop http://www.monien.net/blog/index.php/2008/10/delphi-back-in-top-ten/comment-page-1/#comment-33 ibandyop Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:51:26 +0000 http://www.monien.net/blog/index.php/2008/10/delphi-back-in-top-ten/#comment-33 @Holger<br>You should add Delphi Programming to your page because Delphi is also a large Automotive conglomerate that has a lot of web pages and also is a place in Greece.<br>Probably TIOBE collection method cannot make the distinction easily. @Holger
You should add Delphi Programming to your page because Delphi is also a large Automotive conglomerate that has a lot of web pages and also is a place in Greece.
Probably TIOBE collection method cannot make the distinction easily.

]]> By: Olaf Monien http://www.monien.net/blog/index.php/2008/10/delphi-back-in-top-ten/comment-page-1/#comment-31 Olaf Monien Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:35:40 +0000 http://www.monien.net/blog/index.php/2008/10/delphi-back-in-top-ten/#comment-31 Well, not everywhere, but on all "relevant" pages. For example take this page:<br><a href="http://www.flickdotnet.de/index.php/2008/09/delphi-2009-couple-of-hints-on-debugging/">http://www.flickdotnet.de/index.php/2008/09/del...</a><br>It's definitely on Delphi Programming, but it won't be counted, as it misses the phrase .... Well, not everywhere, but on all “relevant” pages. For example take this page:
http://www.flickdotnet.de/index.php/2008/09/del…
It's definitely on Delphi Programming, but it won't be counted, as it misses the phrase ….

]]> By: Holger http://www.monien.net/blog/index.php/2008/10/delphi-back-in-top-ten/comment-page-1/#comment-30 Holger Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:32:44 +0000 http://www.monien.net/blog/index.php/2008/10/delphi-back-in-top-ten/#comment-30 Why should I add Delphi Programming everywhere? Programming in or with Delphi kind of implicates Delphi Programming. So no need to spill any more Delphi Programming on my page about Delphi Programming in order to push the Google keyword stats for Delphi Programming. However, CodeGear should have some more Delphi Programming references ;) So, Happy Delphi Programming everybody :-) <This should boost the stats...> Why should I add Delphi Programming everywhere? Programming in or with Delphi kind of implicates Delphi Programming. So no need to spill any more Delphi Programming on my page about Delphi Programming in order to push the Google keyword stats for Delphi Programming. However, CodeGear should have some more Delphi Programming references ;) So, Happy Delphi Programming everybody :-) <This should boost the stats…>

]]> By: jimmckeeth http://www.monien.net/blog/index.php/2008/10/delphi-back-in-top-ten/comment-page-1/#comment-29 jimmckeeth Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:27:19 +0000 http://www.monien.net/blog/index.php/2008/10/delphi-back-in-top-ten/#comment-29 Excellent Olaf! If everyone does that and makes sure their pages about Delphi programming actually says Delphi Programming then we just might bump C# from number 8! Excellent Olaf! If everyone does that and makes sure their pages about Delphi programming actually says Delphi Programming then we just might bump C# from number 8!

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